Electronic cigarette safety for newbies to vaping

July 24, 2013 by  
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Electronic cigarette safety is another thing you will want to keep in mind when you fist start vaping.  Especially if you have small children in your house.  The e-liquid, or smoke juice, may have nicotine in it, if you are like most of us that are moving from cigs to e-cigs.  After a while, you may start phasing out the nicotine by getting lower and lower amounts in your favorite e liquids.  However, something to remember, is that even a small amount ingested by a small child can be very harmful, and even fatal.

If a toddler eats one cigarette, it can seriously harm them.  A bottle of e-liquid contains a carton or more worth of nicotine in that small amount of liquid. Keep this in mind, and have a good safe place to keep your electronic cigarette supplies out of the reach of small children for their own safety. Little kids are curious, and will climb up things to get to something colorful that they see up high, so it is a good idea to keep them in some kind of storage box, so they are more out of sight.

Also, if you have a spill, and it gets on your skin, it can soak in and make you feel very ill.  You need to wash any skin with soap and water to keep it from soaking in too much, as soon as a spill happens.   Do not just wipe it off with a towel, or paper towel, because that will just make it spread over a larger area of your skin, and allow more to be absorbed before you get it washed off.  Keep this in mind for personal safety, as well as the safety of others, including your children and even pets.

When I am filling up my e cig with smoke juice, I normally keep everything over a small cookie sheet I bought just for this.  It keeps any spilled fluids contained, and I can easily wash it off when I am done if I happen to make a bit of a mess.   You should always have a couple of paper towels on hand as well, just to keep your e-cig cleaned off when your done, and many people use them when they are opening the parts that hold the liquids, so they do not get it on their fingers.

If you get it in your eyes…  It will freakin burn like fire!  Get to the kitchen sink and run cool water in your eye(s) for at least 5 minutes.  Longer if needed for sure.  I have never had it happen to me, but have read about it happening to someone else, and he was in pain for quite a while.  I would even suggest getting medical help after rinsing your eyes, just to be on the safe side.  But that may depend if the burning stopped or kept going too.   I can’t really say for sure, but if it hurts and it is in your eyes, it would be the smart thing to do.

I am sure there are some flavors out there, that contain real berry flavor extracts, and such, that may easily stain your cloths too, if you spill it on them, so use care, and you should be fine.  I know I have spilled a couple of drops here and there on my shirt, or pants, and have not noticed a stain, but every flavor can be different.  Again, just use your head, and you shouldn’t have any issues to worry about.

Okay, that was the bad stuff.  Now the good side of things.  If you are going from regular tobacco cigarettes to electronic cigarettes, you will no longer have to worry about your paint in your house becoming yellowed over time from the nicotine in the smoke.  There is no smoke, just water vapors that dissipate pretty fast.   You will notice that your house will start smelling cleaner, and your cloths will not smell like what your smoking.  You can walk up to non smokers right after taking a few hits off your e cig, and they will not smell it all over you.   The safety part of it, is that the vapor you breath out has almost nothing left in it for others to breath in.  Some will have a lingering smell, depending on the flavor, but many have no smell left at all in the vapor that you blow out.  Second had vaping does not look like an issue with the research that I have read, that was done by notable research facilities.

I hope you find this information helpful about electronic cigarette safety.

Happy Vaping,

Tim L

Signature flavors, MLB type, DIY flavor review

July 18, 2013 by  
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2% flavor added to 50/50 mix of pg/vg at 8mg nicotine.  It smelled so good, that I went ahead and added nic in the test batch.

So far, this MLB type flavor by Signature flavors is on the interesting side.  Note, that I have only made it 2 days ago, and this really needs to steep for a week from what I heave read.  So far, it comes closest to what I have been searching for.  My Marlboro flavor that I get from the flea market…   I am not sure where they get theirs from, or what the real flavor is, so I am slowly searching for the base flavor.

Off the bat, I notice it is lighter in color than what I normally vape.  Actually it is light yellow, like urine…  However, some e liquids do get darker as they steep, but it is still yellow.  Also, I only tried a 2% blend as I have been gagged by too many tobacco flavors at 5%.  I will revisit this review next week with an update after it steeps for a week, s0 I can give you the scoop then as well, but for first impressions, here you go.

When mixing this flavor, you definitely smell the tobacco smell.  So far so good.  It smells a lot like my other stuff.  Ok, so I mixed it at 2% flavor, at a 50/50 pg/vg mix, and let it sit for 2 days before trying it.   The first vape is always scarey, so I use extreme caution.  Without really steeping long, it has a very interesting flavor to it.  Not quite what I am looking for, but who knows what next week may bring.  It has a very nice tobacco flavor on the inhale, and I read that someone thought the woody flavor was along the cedar side – I have to agree with that.   When I vaped and let some out to breath in my nose, I can pick up a nice nutty blend in it as well.  I am not sure, but I am thinking perhaps a hazel nut, or perhaps an almond with I don’t know,,, chocolate or carmel.

It puts out a nice cloud of vapor, and the vapor smells nice too.  Some flavors really smell bad in the air, but this one is quite pleasant.  I also notice, that after vaping it for a few minutes, that there is a lingering, nutty after taste hanging around.  Not sweet or sour, just like if you sat and ate some hazel nuts or almonds. I wish I could figure out which one it is.

Over all, first impressions are looking good.  This is a very good flavor at 2% with no real steeping time.  I may make up a 3% or 4% batch to sit while this steeps and try them both next week.  It is interesting as a stand along flavor, although it is not what I was looking for at all.  It is the closest I have come though, so perhaps it is used in the base with some other flavors added to it.  I will hop out of here for now, and make up the stronger batches to see how they go.

Stay tuned, as I will post back next week with more on this MLB type, by Signature (The Perfumers Apprentice) brand flavor.

Ok, a revisit of the 2% after it steeped for 10 days.

The flavor is actually very much the same as before.  Nothing really came out of letting it steep for a while.   It is a very interesting flavor, but not quite what I was looking for.  It is however, the closest that I have came so far, so that is encouraging at least.

It has a real nice bold tobacco smell to it, if you smell the liquid, when you open it.  When vaping, you still get that nice tobacco flavor, with a slight bit of a perfume smell and a slight hint of sweetness in there.  On the inhale, you get that full tobacco flavor, and on the exhale, that hint of the perfume comes out.   The odd thing, is you can’t smell that perfume smell at all when smelling the bottle.   It is a nice tobacco flavor, a lot of you may really enjoy.  I like it a lot, but I am in search of something that I can’t seem to find anywhere but the flea market, and that is unsettling, as I have no idea what is really in it, or where it is actually being made.

1% flavor test:

Ok, now I have the flavor at 1% and 4% to see how this flavor does.  Crossing my fingers that I don’t gag myself.  LOL

This is very interesting at 1%.  I thought the flavor would wash out more, but it is still quite nice.  On the lighter side of course, but still quite good.  It has a little more of the sweetness being pronounced, but the tobacco flavor is still pretty rich and super smooth now.  Also, I do not notice the perfume smell or taste to it at this point.  This is turning out to be pretty decent of a flavor.  I can’t wait to see how the 4% batch changes the flavor.

4% flavor test:

Well, I am quite disappointed with it at 4%. No two ways about it.  At 4%, the rich tobacco flavor is missing completely.  Go figure..  However, to replace it comes a sweet, kinda lemon flavor.  Kinda like the taste of lemon drops, and that perfume smell is back with a vengeance.   The funny thing, is that when you smell the bottle of  e-juice, the perfume smell is gone, and the tobacco smell is real strong.  But at 4%, on a 2.0 ohm atty with the volts set at 4.0, it tastes way different than it smells for sure.   I notice off the bat, that the vapor production was much better with the 1 and 2% batches than with the 4% also.    I turned my voltage down as low as my ego twist will go, (3.2 volts) and it still tastes like a lemon drop with a hint of tobacco in it.

It looks like the 4% batch will hit the sink drain as soon as I am done typing this out, and I will vape the heck out of this stuff since 1-2% works great.   That little bottle of flavoring will go a long ways at 2% mixing.  And it is a real nice, full flavored, great smelling tobacco that will blend with any other flavor you may want, like apple, cherry, blue berry, etc.

Over all, I say this MLB type, from Signature  (Perfumers Apprentice) is a real good tobacco flavor. Just make sure to use your e-liquid calculator to get the percentages right, and keep it around 2% for best results.  I use the e-juice me up, e-juice calculator from  http://breaktru.com   because it is easy to use, and makes saving your recipes a snap.

Happy Vaping!

Tim L


DIY (Do It Yourself) Flavors

July 10, 2013 by  
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Many people I have read about in the e-cig forums, make their own DIY, e-liquids to vape. There are a number of reasons that people do this. Some do it to save money, and others may just like to do things themselves to know what all is in it. Others, do it just for something to do. After reading about them making their own flavors, and having fun doing it, I started reading up, so I could start making my own. It does take some reading to learn what to do and what not to do. Please read a lot before considering having a go at your own DIY e liquids, to keep you and your family safe.

I went to a site that sells bulk flavors, and the VG, PG, and nicotine, and a few of the tools needed for the job, and waited… I did a lot more reading in the mean time, trying to find recipes for the 22 flavors I ordered. (why start simple…)

It came in in just a few short days, and I had to get myself busy to see how it would go. I set up a table in my garage, which is also my office. I went to the store and picked up some glass measuring beakers, and some rubber gloves.

NOTE: You should probably ware safety glasses or goggles, and a long sleeve lab type coat for skin and eye protection. The reason I say this, is because I bought 100 MG nicotine liquid, and when it is that strong, it is also very deadly. Even from splashing on your skin. It soaks in, and your screwed. So BE VERY CAREFUL… You do not want to end up in the hospital, or with a dead pet, or child.

My wife loves this banana nut bread mix we get down at the flea market, and I love a Marlboro liquid that they have. It is a good 75 miles or more round trip, so we can’t just run down whenever we want. This prompted me to make sure to try making good flavors that we could vape instead of having to drive all that way, every time we ran low. The drive in my truck is pretty costly, before making any purchases. I made sure to get her banana nut bread, along with every tobacco flavor they had for one brand, and a bunch of other flavors that just sounded good.

If your going to mix your own e liquids, make sure to get a good calculator like one by e juice me up. Available for free here: http://www.ejuice.breaktru.com   It will make the nicotine and other calculations very simple, and you can save all your own recipes so when you have one that works, you can simply open it back up and do it again.  Also, it comes with a ton of recipes at their website that you can download for free, and use.   They allow users to send in their recipes for others to use as well as many that are posted by the software developer.

Oh man,,, when you first open that 100 mg nicotine, make sure you are in a well ventilated area, and/OR, wear a vapor respirator. That stuff will sting your nose now, let me tell you. Also, after reading more, I see many people dilute it down and store it at about 50 mg. I left mine at 100, because it is real simple to figure the math that way. I may change over at some other time, but for now it remains the same, 100 mg strength.

Read my other blogs to see my flavor reviews, and product reviews. I have a ton of flavors to review, and more will be on the way as time passes, so there should always be fresh postings on the site.

Thanks for stopping by, and Happy Vaping!

Tim L

Coumarin Pipe Tobacco, e liquid flavor by Flavor west, DIY review

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Hello, and thank you for stopping by.  I know there are not many reviews out there on Flavor west Flavors, so stay tuned as I run through about 27 of them for you.   This time up is Coumarin Pipe Tobacco flavor for my smoke juice.   If you enjoy a mildly sweet and mild tobacco flavors, you may really like this one a lot.

I started with this on 5-5-2013 at the following mixture:  2% flavor, 0 nicotine, and it is a 50/50 pg/vg blend e-juice.  I let it steep for quite some time, as it is June 1rst, and I haven’t tested it before today.  Many times, I will test vape my flavors the next day, but I have been busy and away from my flavor testing for a while.

To start, I fully cleaned my atty, and replaced the wick and coil, for a fresh clean flavor test.   Soaked the wick good, then gave a small vape to see what it was all about.  To my surprise, it was really nice.  Slightly sweet, but not over powering like a candy flavor at all, a hint of vanilla is roaming around in there too.  Just the slightest hint of tobacco in there – almost non at all.  I think it would be nice to get just a bit more of that in it, so I may try a slightly stronger batch to see how that goes.   However, as it is, it is a really nice mild vape with great vapor production.  In a sense, I seem to feel like there is a bit of a hint of perhaps a light custard in there somewhere.  Kinda creamy smooth feeling to it as I vape it.  I have to say, I wish I would have put some nicotine in this batch, because I would like to vape this for a day to see if I change my feeling about it.  Perhaps I will put some nic in it, but I have to be careful with a small 5 mil batch like this, because my nic is 100 mg, so it takes just a smidgin or it will be too strong.   Luckily, that e-juice me up calculator will figure that out just fine.

I had my wife try this, and she thought it was pretty good too.  Not enough for her to leave her banana nut bread addiction, but she at least said it was good.

Since I have never heard of this flavor before, I looked it up, on Google of course.  It is a natural flavor that comes from a few types of grasses, clovers and bark.  It is naturally sweet, and has a hint of vanilla taste to it.  This is not toxic to humans, but very toxic to mice and rats.  The flavor is used in cigarettes and pipe tobaccos, and is what lead to all the reports of rat poison in cigarettes.  For more information, I suggest the Wikipedia page on it.   In the amounts that would be in your vapor mix, it should be completely harmless to humans.

I think I will test this at 3 and 4% flavor to see how it goes.  Hopefully I will remember to come back and edit this post as I do, but at 2% it is a real nice tasting vape juice.  I am just looking for a bit more on the tobacco end of the flavor.  If I don’t find it, then it would be pretty  simple to mix a small amount of another good tobacco into it for more of that tobacco taste that it seems to be missing, but the more I vape it, the more I like it the way it is.

Definitely on the must try list of flavors for you.  If your looking for a good DIY flavor, this is a real good one.  Start around 2% and work up from there if you need it stronger.

Testing at 4%:

Ok, I have made the 4% flavor batch at 15% nic to test out.   The batch has steeped for 10 days.  The first thing I noticed was that adding more flavor has given it a bit of color.  It is almost clear, but has a slight peachy pinkish hue.  The flavor is a bit bolder, still quite nice also.  It has that creamy taste to it, kinda like the orange dream bar.  The vapor production seems to be about the same as the 2% batch.

Hey guys and gals, if your looking for a nice mild almost sweet tobacco flavor, you have got to give this one a go.  It is real nice.  I could see it being an all day vape for sure.  If you like more of a throat hit, they make stuff you can add to your mix to increase that.  I think I prefer the milder throat hit, because I vape a lot, and harsh flavors tend to give me a soar throat after a day of vaping it.  This one should not be any issue for that at all – mild and creamy.  Mm, we have a winner with this flavor.

Once I vape this dry, I will try one of the other 3 flavors I have mixed up.

Happy vaping,

Tim L


Jungle Juice flavor, by Flavor West

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I read posts on some electronic cigarette forums about a flavor called Jungle Juice.  Nobody said what it tastes like, but they were saying they really liked it.  So, I made sure to include that in my batch of flavors to check out.   I mentioned this flavor in my last post, so I figured I better stop the tobacco flavor reviews and get this one posted, because I should have posted it weeks ago, but got side tracked.

The name Jungle Juice, by itself lends no hint of what this flavor will taste like.  It leaves you guessing completely, and I could find no explanation anywhere on the net when I was looking, so I want to be sure to let you know what this odd named flavor is all about.  To start with, if you look for recipes, you will find a few different variations.   Even after seeing the recipes, you will have no clue how it will taste.  I am not sure if they are leaving it a mystery on purpose, or what, but I am about to remove the vale on this hidden gem of a flavor.

I mixed this batch up on April 28th, 2013.  I let it sit for 24 hours like most of my flavors before the first test.   The flavor mix was at 15%, and I made the nic level at 12 milligrams per liter.   The mixture is a deep golden color, with a bit of orange coloring to it and some brown.  It is not what I would call a dark colored smoke juice, but it is far from clear.  A bit darker than say, apple juice.

To test this stuff out, I took out the Jungle Juice bottle, cleaned my atty, then made and put in a new wick and coil so the flavor would be just this jungle juice flavor with nothing else mixed into it.  I had no idea what I was about to get into here.  Ok, so I put ten drops or so into the chamber, and got ready to take a drag.  I could smell this e-liquid pretty well, as it is quite aromatic.  It smells nice and fruity, I guess is the best way to describe it.  So, I took a puff of this from my atty.   A small one at first, as I have had some wicked bad flavors, and didn’t want a ton of a bad one at once.  As soon as I took the drag, I started noticing this flavor that I have tasted before.  It is very fruity, and a touch of sweetness to it as well, but not too sweet.  The best way to describe it, is to pop a piece of juicy fruit gum into your mouth and chew it.  So similar it is not funny, but there is a twist…

Once I took a bigger puff, the other part hit me. (the twist I mentioned)  Just a hint of cooling menthol.  No, I am no fan of anything menthol, and didn’t notice it on the first hit, because it was a small hit, and I don’t think I inhaled it, as I was just pulling the vapor into my mouth to try out the flavor.  However, once I took that next big vape, I noticed it as I inhaled it deeply.  It did catch me off guard, but it was not bad at all.  I mean I could tell it was there, but it was a long ways from being over powering.  I liked the flavor a lot, and my wife did too.  One thing I noticed, was the more I vaped it,  the less I noticed the menthol.   It is so mild, I wouldn’t put it in the same category as a menthol flavor.  It is more of a cooling icy flavor.

This is all being said from someone that generally hates anything menthol.  This is a really great flavor to ad to your mix of flavors.  I can see why several I read on the forums said they made this their all day vape.  It is really that good. A must try.  If your into flavors that produce good vapor, you will enjoy this also, as it creates a great amount of vapor.  It seems to be great at about 3.8 to 4.0 volts on my ego twist battery.

Remember, you may like your flavors milder or stronger than I made mine.  Just use this as a starting point, and blend to your own tastes, and have a great tasting flavor to vape as often as you wish, for a fraction of the cost of store bought brands.

Happy Vaping,

Tim L

Honeywood Tobacco by Flavor West – review, DIY

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Well, Here goes the test of the Honeywood Tobacco, by flavor west.

Once again, it is more of a perfume flavor than anything else.  I taste no honey, no wood, and clearly no tobacco.  What is up with their flavor testers???

It is a lighter flavor  of tobacco regular.  Good vapor production,  more of that stupid perfume flavor.

This is going to be a super short review, because I am getting upset at all these horrid flavors I bought from Flavor West.  I still have several more tobacco flavors to test out.  I hope I can stomach them.  I am only going to test one more today, then giving my taste buds the rest of the day off.  Unfortunately, they deserve a break.

Oh, in case I didn’t say it clear enough..  Honeywood tobacco flavor, from flavor west at 2%


Tim L

Virginia Fire Cured Tobacco by Flavor West – review, DIY

May 22, 2013 by  
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I am going through some of my flavors today, that I mixed up on 5-5-2013.  This batch is all done at 2% flavor, since the higher amounts were mind blowingly horrible.  There are no reviews, or other info on the net that I could find, that tell you how much of these flavors to use in your e-liquid when your making it, so I am letting you follow my trial and errors.  I will be the guinea pig, and you can read along and laugh as I choke up on the bad ones.

Ok, here we go..  Virginia fire cured tobacco flavor, by flavor west. Test at 2% flavor.

Well, since I have had so many bad attempts..  I am a bit taken back, since this one is not disgusting.  Hmm,,  I will need to vape this for a while and see if it stays the same.  Off the bat, it is not bad at all.  I do think 3% may be a better choice than 2, as it seems on the mild side, but many people like the milder flavors better.   Give me a while, and let me vape just this flavor and see how it goes.

I noticed first, that it puts out a great vapor cloud at a 50/50 vg/pg mix, which is generally what I go for.  I have vaped some flavors that you can’t hardly see the vpapor, but this one puts out a good cloud.

After vaping for a while, I am trying to pick out the flavors.  I seem to be getting a more pure version of it’s flavor at this point, and my opinion is changing on it.

I notice a kinda of talcum powder taste to it.  I don’t mean perfumed baby powder, but the unscented kind.  Then, on top of that, it is getting a bit of a perfume smell to the vapor, and once I noticed that, I can start picking out some of that in the taste as well.  This one kinda creeped up on my taste buds.   The more I vape it, the more pronounced the flavor is.    I have yet to notice a bit of tobacco flavor at all.

I thought I may have been onto a good flavor, but that too was my fault.  I almost changed the wick out when I was cleaning my corsair atty, because I was vaping some JC Island flavor before this, and it takes a bit to flush that stuff out.  I thought it was clear before I vaped this, but it clearly was enough left to mask the true flavor of this garbage.  Yes, I said garbage…  It is like a perfume baste talcum powder flavor.  Kinda leaves a powdery feeling coating on my tong. Kinda odd if you ask me.

After leaving it sit for a few minutes while I typed this, I am getting an almost grass like aftertaste in my mouth.  I don’ t know about being fire cured tobacco, but I sure wish they would have let the fire burn this one up.  It has no tobacco flavor to it that I can find, and I have vaped 30 drops at least.

I give up on this flavor.  It also SUCKS!!!

I sure hope one of my other flavors will be good.  Stay tuned, as I am cleaning my atty now and going to try the tobacco regular by flavor west next.

Tim L

Vanilla Tobacco by Flavor West – review

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On 5-5-2013 I made up a batch of all my tobacco flavors from flavor west.  Since the higher numbers failed, I started at 2% this time.  That way if it is strong, it can be cut to 1%. If it still sucks at that point, it will likely hit the trash.  This post is about the Vanilla Tobacco by Flavor west. I make my e-liquids as a 50/50 mix of pg and vg.   The nic level on this starting batch is 0, zilch, nadda…  after tasting the other tobacco flavors, I figured I would do my search for a good flavor, before wasting my time and nicotine on bad flavors.  So, I made up all the flavors with no nic for now.

The vanilla tobacco was a pleasant surprise as far as flavor goes.  At just 2% it seems a bit weak, so I will mix it at 3 and 4 and see if those are any better without going over board.   The flavor as it stands though, is quite a nice vanilla, with a tobacco undertone.  But, like I said, it seems a bit on the weak side, so I look forward to the 3 and 4% batches to see how it does.

I let it steep for 10 days to see if that would help, but it is pretty much the same as I remember it being the day after it was made.  I like that, in that it seems like it is stable 24 hours after it is created.  This may or may not be the case with more flavoring added. Time will tell.   With the horrid flavors I have tried, this one is at least a nice twist of things.  I really look forward to trying it again tomorrow at a higher flavor mix to see how it is then.

Note, that I mention flavor west, and the flavor, a lot when I talk about these flavors.  That is because after hours and hours of research, I can’t find a dang thing about them on line.  Looked all over the place.  In all the major e-cig forums, on the site where I bought it, on flavor west’s site, and nothing.  Not a damn thing…   So, I figured since I bought like 27 flavors, I would test them all out and make a review on each and every one of them for anyone else that is thinking about buying them.

I did not buy them because they were any cheaper than other flavors.  I just wanted to try them out, so here I am.

Stay posted – I will update this as soon as I vape the vanilla tobacco at 3% and 4% flavor by flavor west.

OK,   Here is the review of Vanilla Tobacco by Flavor West at a 3% mix of flavor.

At 3%, the flavor is coming through much better.  I think I will stay there, instead of going up to 4%.  Your mileage may very.  If you are looking to make this flavor, it tastes pretty good, at 3 percent flavor mix.  You may want it a bit stronger at 4 or 5%, But it would be wise to start at 3 and work your way up slow to make sure you don’t shoot past the sweet spot for you.

I am almost in shock that this is a good tobacco flavor.  I do taste much more of the vanilla than tobacco, but it is a good tasting vape juice.   I am sure I will experiment by adding caramel,  blueberry, and other flavors to see how it mixes in with them.   I am just glad I found something with a tobacco base that I like from Flavor west.  I still have a few more to try out, but so far, the results have been more than dismal.

I decided to go ahead with the 4% mix on the flavor, just for the heck of it.  Kinda glad I did.  It didn’t seem to add more vanilla flavor, but seems to maybe brought out some of the tobacco in it a little better.  Strangely, a little bit of a fruity flavor coming through at this point as well.  I am not sure what that is about, but it is a very little bit like maybe a light juicy fruit gum.   I have not vaped any of my jungle juice since changing the wick and cleaning it all out, but to be sure it is not lingering from before, I will vape this for a while and make sure this is the actual flavor I am vaping, and that there are no cross mixing of flavors that I have vaped in the past. There shouldn’t be, since it has been cleaned out a few times since I vaped the jungle juice. Not to mention the wick changes too.   However, it was not there when vaping at 3% flavor mix, and I went from that, right to this 4% mix.

Any way you look at it..  I like this flavor.  At 2%, 3% and at 4% they are all good, while giving completely different flavor experiences. If you are a DIY flavor mixer, you need to give this one a try.  Hopefully it will be as good for you as it is for me.

Tim L

DIY American Tobacco by Flavor West

April 3, 2013 by  
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Hello again,

I have been working on the American Tobacco from Flavor West lately, trying to find just the right amount of flavor.  Let me tell you, it is not simple to do, when there are no clues out there that say, “hey, start with this much flavor” … none at all that I could find.  Flavor west seems to be talked about very little.  Hopefully my reviews and posts will help others that are trying to make their own e liquids with flavor west flavors, because there was sure no info out there when I started, and I have looked long and hard.

Most of my fruity or at least non tobacco flavors you start with about 15 to 20% flavor in your eliquid.  I searched the web and found no info on the tobacco flavors from flavor west, so I started with the same amount.  Like most people, I am guessing, I started out on the wrong end of the spectrum, and put in 15% flavor.  OMG, that was the worst, most horrid taste you could ever imagine.   I let it steep for a week, then a month, and it just got worse.

Finally, I was noticing that a lot of the other flavor brands use 1 to 5% flavor for their tobacco flavors of e liquid.  So, I figured I would go to the other end of the scale and start with 1% and 2% batches the same day, so I could see how things go from the lower end.  I mixed up the two batches and let them sit over night, to allow the flavor to blend in.  I did not put them in hot water this time to fast steep them, as I was figuring it was just going to be a horrid flavor no matter what I do with it, so I didn’t waste the time with the extra step I usually take.  With that in mind, I added no nicotine to these batches so I wouldn’t just be wasting it on a dud flavor.

After they sat over night, I reluctantly tested them starting with the 1% flavor batch first, figuring it would be the least bad of the two.   To my amazement, it didn’t taste bad at all.  It didn’t have much flavor to it, but it was a decent flavor.  A light tobacco blend.  So, I tried the 2% and it was a little more flavorful but still tasted pretty decent.

My initial batches were made on 3-29.  I haven’t touched them again since the 30th, until now.  That is only 7 days since they were first  made.   I know from reading, that a lot of people let their tobacco flavors steep for a good month before using them to allow the flavoring to completely blend in with the other liquids in the juice.  I am a little more impatient I guess.  But I think that checking it each week will allow me to know when it is ready to vape.  Then I can add that info to my notes, and come up with a time frame to make eliquids so they are ready to vape before I run out of my previous batch of e liquid.

Ok, today’s vape of the 1% batch of the American tobacco flavor, by flavor west:  One week after making it.

The flavor is still very vapable, with a very light tobacco flavor.  Also, now, I notice somewhat of a grassy taste.  Kinda like the smell of a fresh cut lawn, but in a real light flavor.  Almost a hint of a light fruity taste, but the harsh perfume smell that it had at 15% is completely gone.  It has no bad perfume taste or smell to it at all now.  The vapor it produced is decent too.

Ok, now I am getting ready to test the 2% American Tobacco by Flavor West.  I take my corsair dripping atomizer and clean it with a paper towel, making sure to dry up all the left over liquid from the bowl and dry the wick as much as I can so when I use the 2% it will give me the 2% flavor closer to the beginning of the test.  The only better way would be changing the wick and coil, but they are the same flavor, just a different percentage of flavor amounts, so no need to take the time to do all that.

The 2% batch: one week after making it.

I ran 12 drops through it vaping it pretty quick to flush the rest of the 1% out, then filled it with another 15 drops from the 15 mil needle tipped bottle.   Now I am testing out the pure 2%.

It has a bit more flavor.  It is actually kinda nice, but it still has a bit of that grassy taste to it.  You can taste a nice blend of light tobaccos, and the vapor is pretty decent.  Almost no throat hit, but remember, there is no nicotine in it at all.  for non nicotine vapors, you can ad some stuff in to give throat hit for non nic e juices.  I will talk about that another time.

The vapor production on this is really great when I twist my battery up to 4 volts.  The flavor is a bit better too – a little bit of a sweet note to it.

After walking my dog, Gizmo, and letting my taste buds clear out, I took another big hit from it, and really notice a lot of the grass taste right off the bat.  After the second or third puff, it seems to lessen quite a lot, and turn into that almost sweet taste.  Kinda odd.   I think this may be a good base flavor to mix with other flavors, like apple, peach or blueberry.  It seems to need something to take out that grass taste.

Alone, I don’t think this cuts it, as there is not enough of a tobacco flavor to it.  The vapor production seems to be great though.  I think to be fair, I will mix a 4% batch to see if it brings out more of the tobacco hints.  They are there, but are very mild, and buried in the fresh cut grass flavor.   I will add to this once I have tested a 4% and possibly adding other flavors also, to see if it blends well.   I will also revisit these flavors at the end of the month so I can see how steeping for a month does for it.

Come back later, or subscribe to this blogs rss feed, so you can see the rest of the results.

Well, I got ready to mix a 4% batch, and saw that I had a 5% batch made up on 3-12.   It is already a couple of weeks old, so it is ready to test.  This batch has 3% nic in it.

About all I can say about the 5% batch is more of the same.  More grass flavor to it.  This is clearly not a stand alone flavor form me.  It is a bit strange, because it does not outright suck, but it just isn’t something I would vape without adding something to it.  I can taste some tobacco in it, but I am not sure what the grass flavor is all about.  It is definitely more pronounced than the tobacco.

Ok, today is April 18th, so it has been two more weeks since I first tasted this batch.   This batch will be 3 weeks old tomorrow.

Testing the 1% batch:  The flavor is still about the same as before.  The vapor production is still great also.  However, the grassy taste seems to have mellowed out  a bit.  Unfortunately it is still there, but not as harsh as a fresh cut lawn on a hot day.. it is more like a day or two later. Still there, just not as strong.  I am still having a hard time noticing a tobacco flavor in it.  It is very mild in that respect, but this is just a 1% batch, so I expect it to be on the week side.

Testing the 2% batch:
It is hard to taste a any major difference in the two this time around.  The 1% seems to have changed and the 2% is almost like the 1% at this point.  All my previous thoughts seem to remain the same for this flavor…  it is just not my cup of tea, and is not a good stand alone flavor.  I will now take these batches and test them with apple, peach or blueberry and see how things going, but I will clearly not be vaping on this alone.

It seems like the manufacturer thinks we smoke our lawns in America… not sure what is up with that.

Thank you for stopping by,

Tim L

DIY Fruit Punch, by flavor west Review

March 12, 2013 by  
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Hi all,  I am just writing another flavor review of a home made or DIY flavor I made up on Feb 9th.

The flavor is Fruit Punch by flavor west. Unless I state otherwise, in a review, I make my e-liquid as a 50/50 mix of PG and VG, but have been testing things out with more VG to see how it goes on some flavors.  This one is another 50/50 pg/vg blend.

When I first made this batch up, I made 10 milliliters, so I would have plenty if it turned out good.  However, I heat steeped it twice by putting it in a pan of just boiled water, until it cooled to room temp, then boiled the water and did it again, after shaking up the blend again.

Then, the next day – about 24 hours later, I gave it a try.  Oh man…  it about gagged me.  It could have gagged a maggot, as I say.

Well, I know that many flavors are no good right off the mixing table, so I put it aside, and had not touched it since.  I found it as I was making some other flavors today, and got brave enough to give it another go, after opening the bottle, and seeing that the smell was quite nice now.  Before it was so strong smelling, it would make your nose hairs burn.

So, I vaped the rest of my island flavor out of my dripping atty, so I could try it without having to wash out a clearomizer.  I didn’t have very high hopes for it.  I put in enough to check it out…  and oh my,, what a sweet surprise it was to vape this fruit punch mix I made up.

The first thing I noticed was a nice mild sweetness, then that tropical punch flavor kicked in the background.  Talk about a nice smooth vape that you could use in the morning, noon or night.  This turned out pretty darn good after waiting for about 4 weeks.  After the flavor was coming through good, I noticed a super soft throat hit.  The throat hit is very mild, but I only have it at 8% nicotine.  After several vapes, I can feel a slight tingle on my tongue, rather than in my throat.

Another huge plus for it, is the vapor production.  I have vaped a few that I thought were a 10 on a ten point scale, but this one knocked it out of the park with about a 14 on a 10 point scale.  I mean literally vapor so thick it blocks out what is in front of me.  I have never had vapor production this vivid before with any other flavor at all.   All I can say is WOW.  If you enjoy HUGE VAPOR, then you will absolutely love this if you like fruit punch to begin with.

One down side, which others may enjoy, is that I notice a creamy or waxy feeling in my mouth after vaping it for a while.  I think that is due to the vapor being so thick that it is allowing more of the flavor and nicotine to sit on my tongue.  That is just a guess though.

If I were to start selling flavors, this one would need to be made up a month before it was ready to sell, but oh is it so worth the wait.   I am now real glad I made a 10 mil test batch instead of just a 3 to 5 mil test.  Now I have plenty to vape over the next few days.

My electronic cigarette loves this stuff.  I am vaping this at 3.6 volts on my ego twist, in a 1.5 ohm atty.

If you are looking for a good DIY, then this is a great choice.

Thanks for stopping by,

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